Episode 18

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14th May 2025

The Couples Therapy Episode

For many people, hearing “couples therapy” brings up the idea of a relationship being in crisis or on the brink of ending – and while couples therapy can be impactful in those cases, there is so much more to it and so many other circumstances where it can be beneficial. In this episode, Valerie and Emerson get into what couples therapy really is, when it’s helpful, when it’s not helpful, and suggestions for what to look for if you’re interested in couples therapy. 

This episode covers:

  • 00:03:23 - Tea & Crumpets: Zumba at the YMCA + Harmen Hoek
  • 00:06:53 - The Lore: How Couples Therapy Helped Val
  • 00:14:46 - The DSM: What Couples Therapy Really Is
  • 00:53:20 - Now That's What I Call...OKAAAAY!
  • 00:55:27 - Em Pick: "A Thousand Trees" by Stereophonics
  • 00:57:13 - Val Pick: "In Keeping Secrets of Earth: 3" by Coheed & Cambria
  • 00:58:31 - Fire Dumpster Phoenix: How Massachusetts became the only state to reduce food waste + how a 90 year old woman has saved over 10,000 animals

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But For Real
Welcome to But For Real: the podcast where all your swirling thoughts about mental health, pop culture, and how to human are blended into one delicious variety show, co-hosted by therapists Valerie Martin (resident elder millennial ✌️) and Emerson Ryder (resident Gen Z 🫶).

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